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Poster: paulypecker Date: Dec 2, 2008 8:38am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Offering

http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=220071

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Dec 2, 2008 8:41am
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know-it-all show-off!!

;)


(can you tell it is slow at my work today?? - lol)

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Poster: paulypecker Date: Dec 2, 2008 8:47am
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I can see that -And I thank you for your kind support.You're a good man.

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Dec 2, 2008 8:58am
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Oh you had to encourage him didn't you.

Attachment: for_dire.mp3

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Dec 2, 2008 9:34am
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and i need so little......



(nice mooo - thanks - my loins are now moist)

:)

This post was modified by direwolf0701 on 2008-12-02 17:34:19

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Poster: user unknown Date: Dec 2, 2008 9:21am
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careful there pauly...

you keep on posting like that and you're gonna have to answering questions

that'll really mess with some minds around here

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Poster: paulypecker Date: Dec 2, 2008 9:28am
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It's all good-I've made my point

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Poster: Earl B. Powell Date: Dec 2, 2008 10:47am
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Touche. OK Grasshopper, let's dispense with the exoteric and see if we might find a little esoteric value in here. Why was the band billed as Jerry & Friends rather than the Grateful Dead? Your thoughts?

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Poster: paulypecker Date: Dec 2, 2008 11:07am
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I never asked a question to any one person in particular. I threw questions out for ANYONE in the FORUM to respond to. Why ask me personally? I didn't address the question to any certain person or the " elders" that you refer to that you say know it all and don't want to be bothered with so-called "GD 101" inquiries. I'm asking questions to the entire forum. You are NOT the entire forum,by yourself, and it's obvious ,by the responses in my favor, that you DO NOT represent the forum as a whole. NO ONE does. Do you realize that? OF COURSE I don't know it all. That's why I inquire. You're reading too deep into me. If I ask a question, that means I don't know the answer. You believe what you want to believe.What would be the point in asking about something I already know? Look, people have been assuming things about me that are NOT accurate. I'm "fake", I'm this or that. Why are these people so worried about why I ask questions,questions I really don't know the answer to? I don't know all the answers. I'd just like to be educated a bit in this forum without causing paranoia amongst you.
And NO, I don't know the answer to your question. Obviously you do. So just tell US and don't single me out. I feel like I'm in high school with this BS line of questioning. MY QUESTIONS ARE REAL and I don't have the time or patience to deal with this ridiculous back and forth.


Anyone have a good one-liner for me? I could use it after all this crap.

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Poster: Earl B. Powell Date: Dec 2, 2008 11:49am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Offering

Pauly, don't be getting all prickly on me here, I'm just trying to offer some guidance. This isn't about who is right or wrong or anything related to where any power lies on this board. It's free-form and goes where everybody steers it. (Except when Tell gets on the soap box.)

Here's my take on it all. As a group we have 3,000 shows and almost 40 years of history that can be covered within the confines of this board. One way to look at it is like having a baseball stat book, and there are folks that get their pleasure from this sort of thing. While informative, they are just that...statistics.

Another way to look at it is like I do, and that is having a life long intellectual and emotional connection to the music, the band and the social history that goes with it. It's not just a hobby, like baseball stat-talk, it's part and parcel of the life I've lived since getting on the bus in 1970.

What I'm attempting to get at is don't be satisfied with simply scratching the surface. There's much deeper and sometimes darker veins of information to be struck that can do more than simply satisfy curiosity. It's not at all about vanity and knowing more or less than the next guy, it's about one day finding yourself with this unwanted intellectual commitment to something so misunderstood there's only a few places you can share it. In fact, it's so passe' to the rest of the world, it not even cool, it's archaic.

Now, to answer your original question in it's proper way. The band was all too aware of Pig's decline and found for him the best treatment available, but too late. They used Howard Wales and Ned Lagin on American Beauty and Merl Saunders overdubbed keys on Skullfuck.

Apparently it became fairly well known that Pig was on his way out, and Donna suggested to Garcia at a show that Keith would be the next keyboard player. He had done a gig with Betty Cantor, so he wasn't exactly an unknown. But Pig was still around and he worked some charts with Keith in 71 that carried over to Europe 72. In a lot of cases Pig and Keith were fairly low in the SBD mixes, brought up in the studio for the album mix. The early part of the tour was without Donna on vocals, and Phil singing (unbelievably) good high harmony vocals. The result is having Garcia and Weir mixed at nearly equal levels, each in his own channel. Phenomenal for guitar junkies. Get as much as you can of this tour in SBD Flac recordings. Treasure.

Finally, I don't know why the were billed as Jerry & Friends, but I'll speculate that after the Wall of Sound fiasco, creditors of the GD Corporation were looking for some assets or income to get their hands on, and the band or management didn't want to risk playing under the "corporate" banner. That, and perhaps they didn't want to signal some kind of commitment that they were about to un-retire. Not sure, that's why I asked.

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Dec 2, 2008 1:07pm
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Thanks Earl - pretty informative

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Poster: paulypecker Date: Dec 2, 2008 4:59pm
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Thanks man.That's more info. than I expected and all good to know. Sorry if I was harsh. I was getting a bit tense with this whole back and forth but it's cool now. Peace.

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Poster: paulypecker Date: Dec 2, 2008 11:07am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Offering

I never asked a question to any one person in particular. I threw questions out for ANYONE in the FORUM to respond to. Why ask me personally? I didn't address the question to any certain person or the " elders" that you refer to that you say know it all and don't want to be bothered with so-called "GD 101" inquiries. I'm asking questions to the entire forum. You are NOT the entire forum,by yourself, and it's obvious ,by the responses in my favor, that you DO NOT represent the forum as a whole. NO ONE does. Do you realize that? OF COURSE I don't know it all. That's why I inquire. You're reading too deep into me. If I ask a question, that means I don't know the answer. You believe what you want to believe.What would be the point in asking about something I already know? Look, people have been assuming things about me that are NOT accurate. I'm "fake", I'm this or that. Why are these people so worried about why I ask questions,questions I really don't know the answer to? I don't know all the answers. I'd just like to be educated a bit in this forum without causing paranoia amongst you.
And NO, I don't know the answer to your question. Obviously you do. So just tell US and don't single me out. I feel like I'm in high school with this BS line of questioning. MY QUESTIONS ARE REAL and I don't have the time or patience to deal with this ridiculous back and forth.


Anyone have a good one-liner for me? I could use it after all this crap.

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Poster: NostraDamnIt Date: Dec 2, 2008 12:06pm
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What was Jerry's favorite colour?

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Dec 2, 2008 12:10pm
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same as William Tell's - Hot Flaming Pink (with a hint of chartruese polka dots)

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Poster: William Tell Date: Dec 2, 2008 12:19pm
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Hmm, I mis-read that as "Snot Flavored Link" which somehow makes sense in this strange place, especially given the subject line of "Dire's Offering" (isn't he always?).

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Poster: paulypecker Date: Dec 2, 2008 12:12pm
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You stole my answer.Damn you! - LOL-

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Poster: William Tell Date: Dec 2, 2008 12:23pm
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Hey, watch it newbie...what's worse: Jerry (or me) in a skin tight pair of William Tell's Hot Pink Leotards for Fat Fifty Somethings, or Bob in his shortest shorty-shorts?

You decide.

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Poster: paulypecker Date: Dec 2, 2008 12:26pm
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I was only referring to the color. not you WT, sorry for the misunderstanding, OK? I thought Nostra was playing me

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Poster: William Tell Date: Dec 2, 2008 12:33pm
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Only kidding there pilgrim. No problem whatsoever.

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Poster: paulypecker Date: Dec 2, 2008 12:38pm
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Glad you got my post. I didn't want to get on your bad side-if you have one.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Dec 2, 2008 4:18pm
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WTF? No response?

I thought work was slow...

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Poster: paulypecker Date: Dec 2, 2008 12:24pm
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You're a bit late and of no importance to this discussion,loo
(Nostra) Your myspace is calling

This post was modified by paulypecker on 2008-12-02 20:24:56

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Poster: NostraDamnIt Date: Dec 2, 2008 12:31pm
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loo?
IT WAS A REAL QUESTION.
I think it's either Stella Blue, or maybe Rhapsodian Red.

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Poster: paulypecker Date: Dec 2, 2008 12:41pm
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Cause I'm bored I'll say-"Right"

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Poster: Styrofoam Cueball Date: Dec 2, 2008 1:45pm
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"Scarlet and purple and crimson and blue..." -Rosemary

I'd like to add that I enjoy Pauly's posts and all his questions. I don't enjoy it when people try to prove that they and only THEY are 'true' Deadheads. But that's just me... YMMV.

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Poster: paulypecker Date: Dec 2, 2008 12:43pm
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I'm no idiot

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Dec 2, 2008 12:51pm
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Black Peter

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Poster: Bob Gnarley Date: Dec 2, 2008 12:59pm
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Comic book colors (on a violin river)

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Dec 2, 2008 1:06pm
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Scarlet Begonia

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Poster: paulypecker Date: Dec 2, 2008 1:16pm
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As a time-killer only

patriotically speaking-
to answer Loo's question,
crimson,white AND indigo
and he dressed himself in GREEN, Loo

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Poster: Morning Dewd Date: Dec 2, 2008 1:01pm
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Rosy Red and Electric Blue

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Poster: William Tell Date: Dec 2, 2008 1:11pm
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Those are excellent color descriptors I always thought...

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